Brooklyn 101 Backs: Launch Edition. Friday at noon.

[BrooklynPCC]

Vintage inspired, the best stock ever produced by EPCC, with the most familiar & minimal design possible- this deck is an understated game changer that reshuffles the humble deck of cards. Only some of 1000 printed will be made available.

Standard faces and indices.

Brooklyn 101 Backs:  It’s only the beginning.

Available starting Friday at noon, for 1 week before official launch. Early access email subscribers only. Join at http://www.brooklynplayingcardcompany.com

[badpete69]

Hey BrooklynPcc Just fixed your image link It is now showing

Good Luck

[pint5on]

I really like it. Looks vintage. Will be buying it.

[TGunitedcardists]

All I see is a box. Perhaps, show some of the cards?

[badpete69]

BrooklynPCC I fixed it again and send you a PM with details

[RichK]

Channeling my inner Bruno:

"Brooklyn's in the house, whatcha gonna do...go AWOL!"

I'd like to see face cards too.

[Mike Ratledge]

I tossed you into the Deck Artist group, also. Welcome to UC!

[vasta41]

Good for them not making a KS. I wish more designers would do that.

[bigskybaby]

Nice deck with vintage feelings. However, you call yourself Brooklyn playing card company, but the deck is printed by EPCC? I thought you print your own decks.

[vasta41]

Nice deck with vintage feelings. However, you call yourself Brooklyn playing card company, but the deck is printed by EPCC? I thought you print your own decks.

Plenty of "playing card companies" outsource their decks to other printers (E, LPCC, etc.).

[MagikFingerz]

Nice deck with vintage feelings. However, you call yourself Brooklyn playing card company, but the deck is printed by EPCC? I thought you print your own decks.

Plenty of "playing card companies" outsource their decks to other printers (E, LPCC, etc.).

True. However, I do understand where bigskybaby is coming from, I also feel like a "PCC" should be a printer. But, nothing anyone can do about that; Brooklyn PCC isn't the first and won't be the last. And it does sound good, so I totally get why companies put in in their name.

[PrincessTrouble]

So which is the best stock ever produced by EPCC?

[RichK]

$16 a deck with no bling before shipping? Sorry guys I'm passing.

[BrooklynPCC]

Pre launch week is over, and our store is now live at http://www.brooklynplayingcardcompany.com. All pre launch orders have been shipped out. For those of you that ordered, thank you guys so much for the support. Would love some reviews on here once they get in your hands.

[sinjin7]

"Among the greatest decks of cards ever realized, our launch edition is marked to be one of the most sought after and rare creations of a generation. An instant classic."

"One of the best decks ever made."

"Unparalleled functionality...understated game changer."

When I read verbiage like this, it really turns me off. This makes T11 and D&D sound humble. A print run of 1000 (just like most run of the mill Kickstarter decks) should not be labelled as one of the most rare creations of a generation.

Here's what we have: a tuck box with no bling (not a hint of foiling, embossing, serial numbering, interior printing, etc), no custom courts, pips, or fonts, and a knock off Bee back design. Its a deck printed by EPCC, so we don't even know if it will printed in Taiwan or China, and its on their Classic finish, which everyone here is familiar with - good stock, merely decent finish, nothing earth-shattering. Oh, and did I mention the price? $24.00 shipped for one deck. And that's the intro price. $28.00 after this "intro" period. This is actually laughable. Even if this deck was printed by the USPCC with MetalLuxe foiled backs, I don't know if I would touch this at $24.00/$28.00 per deck shipped. Oh wait, they did call this "one of the greatest decks ever realized!" Yeah. . .right. Can I pass any harder?

[BrooklynPCC]

Everything we claim in our ad copy is true.

To those who can see, no explanation is necessary. To those who cannot, no explanation is possible.

[MagikFingerz]

Everything we claim in our ad copy is true.

To those who can see, no explanation is necessary. To those who cannot, no explanation is possible.

No offense, but that statement makes you sound like a religous cult.

[BrooklynPCC]

Come join us, my child.

[sinjin7]

Everything we claim in our ad copy is true.

To those who can see, no explanation is necessary. To those who cannot, no explanation is possible.

You claim your 1000 print run to be one of the rarest creations of a generation. That clearly is false.

To those who lie, they will have no sales. To those who have no sales, they will be out of business.

[TGunitedcardists]

"Among the greatest decks of cards ever realized, our launch edition is marked to be one of the most sought after and rare creations of a generation. An instant classic."

"One of the best decks ever made."

"Unparalleled functionality...understated game changer."

When I read verbiage like this, it really turns me off. This makes T11 and D&D sound humble. A print run of 1000 (just like most run of the mill Kickstarter decks) should not be labelled as one of the most rare creations of a generation.

Here's what we have: a tuck box with no bling (not a hint of foiling, embossing, serial numbering, interior printing, etc), no custom courts, pips, or fonts, and a knock off Bee back design. Its a deck printed by EPCC, so we don't even know if it will printed in Taiwan or China, and its on their Classic finish, which everyone here is familiar with - good stock, merely decent finish, nothing earth-shattering. Oh, and did I mention the price? $24.00 shipped for one deck. And that's the intro price. $28.00 after this "intro" period. This is actually laughable. Even if this deck was printed by the USPCC with MetalLuxe foiled backs, I don't know if I would touch this at $24.00/$28.00 per deck shipped. Oh wait, they did call this "one of the greatest decks ever realized!" Yeah. . .right. Can I pass any harder?

Unparalleled comment. Understated card forum truth.

Come join us, my child.

No.

[Magic_Orthodoxy]

I'm one who can look past add copy and appreciate product. I don't need "bells and whistles" for a deck to be great - and I gotta say, I have not held a deck of cards that feels this good in a super long time, yes - Brooklyn game me a free review copy, but if it were crap, i'd say it was crap.

There was a time when USPCC wowed me and I didn't like any other stocks, but this deck feels like the Superior decks but on steroids.

Oh and there is a HUGE feature built in that makes this deck a cut above, you just can't "see" it in the pictures.

[sinjin7]

I'm one who can look past add copy and appreciate product. I don't need "bells and whistles" for a deck to be great.

Ok, let's put aside the ridiculous statements that make them lose all credibility for a moment. We're still left with a self-admitted simple AoS and Jokers with clip-art level bridges on them along with a back pattern that required zero design. Absolutely no other effort was put into this deck. So what else would make this deck great?

I gotta say, I have not held a deck of cards that feels this good in a super long time

I respect that people have their own individual preferences, but how many "latest and greatest" stocks and finishes are we going to see from EPCC? If every new stock/finish variation is so great (and they certainly insist it is), then why are they always changing it? This is supposed to be on EPCC's Classic finish. Again, we all know what that is. Even if these decks felt like Ohio-produced casino-grade Bee stock with Cambric finish (and it won't even remotely approach that, by the way), the design, or lack thereof, doesn't come close to making this great.

Oh and there is a HUGE feature built in that makes this deck a cut above, you just can't "see" it in the pictures.

If this huge, un-seeable feature is so great, maybe they should talk about something substantive like that instead of babbling on about being the rarest deck of our generation. Regardless of what this invisible feature is, it won't justify pricing this at $24.00/$28.00 per deck shipped, and that's the bottom line.

I appreciate your video reviews of custom playing cards, you do good work there. But in this case, you lose me. If you hadn't received a free deck for review, I have serious doubts that you would shell out close to $30.00 in the future for the Brooklyn 101 Back, and I'm confounded why you would stake your reputation as a credible deck reviewer by positively recommending this barely custom deck at that price. But hey, clearly your cup of tea isn't my cup of tea on this one and to each his own. . .

[Magic_Orthodoxy]

To be fair, I never heard of the deck until the designer reached out to me - but when I saw the decks hidden feature - I practically begged him to let me add it to the review and I told him that it would help drive up sales - but he wasn't worried about selling only 1,000 decks. (he has over 10 thousand followers on Instagram) so the deck will sell out fast I am sure.

It's a shame - because I have never seen a feature like this in a deck before - I even showed it to my wife and she was impressed and we all know how hard it is to impress our wives with playing card collecting - HA HA !!!!

I think a lot of people who find out about this unique deck too late will be begging him to make a second release. The deck comes with an 8 page pdf that goes into the history, features and unique aspects - it's legit.

It's like the transformers slogan - "....there's more than meets the eye."

[sinjin7]

OK, fair enough. I'm not a magician so its hard for me to imagine a feature that's so great and never been done before in a deck of cards. And if this guy is so confident about this hidden feature that he won't even talk about it, and that he won't have any trouble selling 1000 decks at $24.00/$28.00 a pop, then more power to him.

[Magic_Orthodoxy]

Totally - and since you and a lot of other collectors are not magicians and don't really care about that - and would rather use your money for design and custom features, its perfectly understandable to want to pass on this deck.

Phrases like "game changers" and "best this" and "best that" get thrown around a lot and so we have to be careful about what we spend our hard earned $$$ on -best to ask questions and be a little skeptical when huge claims like this are made.

"Best" means something different to each consumer.

[guru]

If David is excited about this deck then it does mean there is more to it than meets the eye. The price is, indeed high, even if the improved classic finish is accounted for. I assume that this hidden feature or innovation will help drive up the sales as soon as the word goes around about this special feature.

Awaiting deck review now.

[vasta41]

To those who can see, no explanation is necessary. To those who cannot, no explanation is possible.

Now having known that there is a "special" aspect of this deck I find the above statement (from the 1st page of this thread) kind of rude. It's one thing if the mystery feature is to be kept a secret for some reason (I don't understand why but to each his own). But it's another thing entirely to chastise members of this forum when it sounds like an explanation is not only entirely possible but will also help people "see." Again, I'm not asking for an explanation (though it would be nice) but a better response to sinjin's statement could have been, "The reason we're charging so much for a largely un-customized deck is because of a secret."

[Magic_Orthodoxy]

It's actually a quote from Thomas Aquinas ... and it's about "seeing God" and the difference between believers and atheists. To those who have faith (can see) God - they don't need an explanation. And to those who can not see God, not amount of proof will satisfy.

David Blaine used this quote before he began one of his specials. I can't speak for the poster, but I am sure the quote is not about the deck's secret, or directed at you or any consumer. He is using it, like Blaine did - to refer to magic.

[vasta41]

It's actually a quote from Thomas Aquinas ... and it's about "seeing God" and the difference between believers and atheists. To those who have faith (can see) God - they don't need an explanation. And to those who can not see God, not amount of proof will satisfy.

David Blaine used this quote before he began one of his specials. I can't speak for the poster, but I am sure the quote is not about the deck's secret, or directed at you or any consumer. He is using it, like Blaine did - to refer to magic.

While I appreciate your explanation and now understand the source of the statement, I would also like to point out that David Blaine and quite possibly The Brooklyn PCC are in the art of deception. Putting your faith in religion and God and putting your faith in magicians are two totally different things. I myself enjoy magic and appreciate what magicians can do but if you needed someone to watch your wallet for a second, who would you give it to- Jesus or David Blaine? (rhetorical question) Maybe I'm thinking about it too deeply but my overall point is that if it weren't for your info, the project creator would still seem smug on this forum for portraying a deck of cards that on the surface is no different than your average, run-of-the-mill EPCC deck as if they're the greatest thing since sliced bread without even so much as hinting that the deck may actually have a feature that could make it the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Either announce that there's a secret and THAT is the cause of the high price. Or don't tell anyone there's a secret and take the backlash that comes with being "mysterious" until people find out how cool the secret actually is. You can't have it both ways.

[Magic_Orthodoxy]

being that David Blaine is on tour this year AND I did buy tickets.... in a way I already handed him my wallet and lets' just say.... he took EVERYTHING !!!!