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Eoghann wrote:All these projects not funding or barely making it is rather concerning. I'm actually more worried of the projects that make it by the skin of their teeth though. If EdgyBros and Albino Dragon blogs stats are accurate, barely making it isn't a good thing for anyone.

It's not bad if a project barely reaches it's funding IF there are off-Kickstarter wholesale orders to go with the Kickstarter money. The Grinders would've been fine, but I would've had a large number of unused / wasted custom Brick Boxes.

The two big changes involve switching the custom Brick Box to a custom 6-Pack Box instead, and adding an extremely Limited version (500 printed). The Limited Grinders Deck will be on a White Tuck Stock and will utilize Black Foil and Gold Holographic Foil (the same one on the new 52 Plus Joker Deck). It will also have a custom Diecut and individually numbered Seal Sticker that's 1-Color Black printed on a Silver Holographic Foil material.

I've avoided the Limited game ever since going solo (Draconians and Bowling Decks). It's been getting tougher with each project! It's time to bust out the rarest of any of my Decks!!

Thanks, Randy

Eoghann wrote:All these projects not funding or barely making it is rather concerning. I'm actually more worried of the projects that make it by the skin of their teeth though. If EdgyBros and Albino Dragon blogs stats are accurate, barely making it isn't a good thing for anyone.

I think there's an opportunity for MPC. They do everything, from making the cards to fulfillment. Bicycle seems to have priced themselves out for most of the projects, but many feel that having Bicycle on the box is a deal breaker. I don't think so. At the +-10% added and the registration issues really make for more expensive projects. I think people get caught up with what cardists or magicians think, but they go through decks quickly after performances. It gets costly, so they use Bicycle Rider Backs because they're cheap and familiar to audiences.


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I actually think that MPC has upped their game to be a legit competitor in recent times, very impressed with impressions (I just had to XD). What they really need now is a good marketing team, getting their decks out to the right people, and dump their image as a third choice printer.

volantangel wrote:I actually think that MPC has upped their game to be a legit competitor in recent times, very impressed with impressions (I just had to XD). What they really need now is a good marketing team, getting their decks out to the right people, and dump their image as a third choice printer.

I think they have to go through the same pains that Legends and EPCC went through. I too was impressed with their Impressions decks. They have been doing some pretty innovative stuff with their last two projects.

I've printed my own personal custom deck with their 310 gsm (linen) and the quality of the stock and the feel was pretty good. The Impressions decks didn't feel out of place compared to my Legends or EPCC decks either.

Unfortunately, their early stuff wasn't up to par and maybe that's where the problem was. I think they just have to lure some big designers, cut them a sweetheart deal to put them on the map. I'd love to see a Kings Wild MPC deck. That said, their last two projects did $81,591 CAD with 2,017 backers and $39,001 CAD with 810 backers.

RandyButterfield wrote:

Eoghann wrote:All these projects not funding or barely making it is rather concerning. I'm actually more worried of the projects that make it by the skin of their teeth though. If EdgyBros and Albino Dragon blogs stats are accurate, barely making it isn't a good thing for anyone.

It's not bad if a project barely reaches it's funding IF there are off-Kickstarter wholesale orders to go with the Kickstarter money. The Grinders would've been fine, but I would've had a large number of unused / wasted custom Brick Boxes.

The two big changes involve switching the custom Brick Box to a custom 6-Pack Box instead, and adding an extremely Limited version (500 printed). The Limited Grinders Deck will be on a White Tuck Stock and will utilize Black Foil and Gold Holographic Foil (the same one on the new 52 Plus Joker Deck). It will also have a custom Diecut and individually numbered Seal Sticker that's 1-Color Black printed on a Silver Holographic Foil material.

I've avoided the Limited game ever since going solo (Draconians and Bowling Decks). It's been getting tougher with each project! It's time to bust out the rarest of any of my Decks!!

Thanks, Randy

It was bound to be tough this time around since literally everyone decided to launch projects at the same time for some reason. Some coordination between creators might be a good idea and beneficial to all. But I do think your deck was going to fund.

Reminder... Randy Is relaunching tomorrow 11/3 at Noon Eastern time with a limited deck available

For the White Gold version, is the black foil on the tuck or on the card back?

PrincessTrouble wrote:For the White Gold version, is the black foil on the tuck or on the card back?

The White Gold Tuck Box will have the Black Foil and Gold Holographic Foil.

The Back Card for the White Gold Deck will be 4-Color Process + a 1-Color UV Spot Varnish overlay. The Black elements on the Card Back are too fine, and too close to other pertinent design elements, to work properly. The UV Spot Varnish will work nicely!

Below is a side-by-side of the White Gold Back Card's breakdown.

thanks, Randy

All aboard the Butterfield Express ! !
Plenty of seats up front, Ladies and Gentlemen ! ! Put your feet up and Enjoy the Ride.... ! !
Bo-ard ! ! !

Bruno wrote:All aboard the Butterfield Express ! !
Plenty of seats up front, Ladies and Gentlemen ! ! Put your feet up and Enjoy the Ride.... ! !
Bo-ard ! ! !

I am hoping to get front row sit!!

Not long now.
Boarding soon, that Butterfield Express .... !

now live

Very happy with my tier.

Thanks Pierre,
Thanks Randaaaaaaay .... !

YeeOww Lookit that thing go orf ! !

Missed the EB half brick tier but I'm still in for a half brick.

I was hoping for a 2 white gold deck tier but nope, only it's part of a brick.

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Quick funding. Congrats!

What's new, Randaaaaaay ? !

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And..... !!!!

$86 (40 SPOTS) POWER PAIRS = 2 Copper Decks, 2 Blue Decks , 2 Limited White Gold Decks - NO Custom 6-Pack Box

$114 (15 SPOTS) POWER TRIOS = 3 Copper Decks, 3 Blue Decks , 3 Limited White Gold Decks - NO Custom 6-Pack Box

Yup. Just upped my pledge

"I've upped my pledge... up yours!"

But, cereally, folks, I'm really bummed that I missed the power trio. Gah!!!!

Randy, are you doing backerkit with this one as you have with previous campaigns? Will the blue decks be available for add-on as part of that?

rousselle wrote: Randy, are you doing backerkit with this one as you have with previous campaigns? Will the blue decks be available for add-on as part of that?

Blue decks are currently available as add-ons now on the campaign for 10US each.

Power Pairs for me. But yes - it would be groovy to have a heads up when adding tiers.
The blue is gorgeous! Nicely done, Sir

Set your KS to notify you (the backer) in email when an update is made. It will allow anyone to hope on by phone, tablet, lappy, or desktop to snatch up something that becomes available. KS has all kinds of nifty little doohickeys in Settings to enable a backer to be on top of the campaign. Really though, anyone can just add-on a blue if they already have a tier and there are limited tiers available. Something for everyone here and lots for all! I think Randy did a great job of planning this through.

In my opinion, wishing for a specific tier when anyone can easily grab up a limited tier right now... well that's Left Field.

Currently in production with Legends! Pre-orders will be through the Grinders BackerKit (and will fulfill with Grinders).

Grinders has to be my favorite campaign since Spirit. This just pushed it over the edge. Can't wait!!

.... A Bakers Dozen .... A Draconian Brimstone Brick .... Sheer and Utter Bloody Brilliance, Mr Butterfield !

Here's a few images of the finished White Gold Grinders Deck. The Decks should arrive at Gambler's on Wednesday, with fulfillment starting shortly after.

thanks, Randy

Got my Grinders in Indiana today, along with the new Draconian. Stunning work!