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Cards made one place, tuck another? Or designed by a taiwanese, produced in the US.

MagikFingerz wrote:Cards made one place, tuck another? Or designed by a taiwanese, produced in the US.

Nah, Face Oka is Japanese. Cards are most likely USPC and tucks as well. Maybe just a typo.

The US was annexed by Taiwan and is now considered a region thereof.

I, for one, welcome our new Taiwanese overlords.

Outsider wrote:The US was annexed by Taiwan and is now considered a region thereof.

I, for one, welcome our new Taiwanese overlords.

I gladly receive you as our colony. Long live the City of USA, our largest island to date!

On a serious note, it's impossible that A1WW has any association with Taiwan, and this only shows their cluelessness and ignorance toward facts and double-checking.

Shall I bring my pitchfork? Kinda funny to see such heavy bias towards three young adults doing cardistry. I know relativism is not always the best road to ride on, but seriously? A typo = cluelessness and ignorance towards facts? I envy humans that have problems like that.

Harvonsgard wrote:Shall I bring my pitchfork? Kinda funny do to see such heavy bias towards three young adults doing cardistry. I know relativism is not always the best road to ride on, but seriously? A typo = cluelessness and ignorance towards facts? I envy humans that have problems like that.

Bias? I think you got the topic wrong; it's called professionalism, especially when these three YoUnG adults along with their related cardistry brand building community are trying to build billion-dollar businesses. If you're still defending this sloppiness because of their age and saying that "oh come on, it's ok if they're making mistakes, tHeY'rE jUsT kIdS ", then don't expect them to be taken seriously as a brand. No wonder half the people are skeptical towards Fontaine's recent IG post about not being able to deal with bots: because it's Fontaine's unwillingness to sacrifice profit over professionalism to deal with the problematic sale model.

That "typo" has been on A1's site since day one of their sales.
Don't use your own favorability-for-cardistry-brands bias to judge these things.

Decknowledgy wrote:Don't use your own favorability-for-cardistry-brands bias to judge these things.

Just because I’m objective doesn’t make me biased. If you think that I favor cardistry brands then maybe it is part of your reality but it’s just plain wrong. Don’t project things.
Neither anyone nor I care about what you think about their decks and their brand. As I wrote, It’s just funny for me to see how you act towards them, that’s all.
For the rest, first of all, it is okay for everybody to make mistakes because humans (and even AI and robots) make mistakes. And second I never took anyone serious and don’t think that they need to be taken serious.

The plot thickens...

I'm kind of confused about this deck; and it's not the art work .

I got mine yesterday and when I opened the parcel I smelled something very familiar - problem is, it isn't something familiar to USPCC printed decks. Which I expected since A) all other A1 decks I own are like USPCC Bikes and B) the tuck box reads "Made in USA" without explicitely mentioning USPCC. This was the case with previous A1 decks as well.

The smell of these decks is identical to my Fujin and Rajin decks (I can't strech enough how underrated these decks are) from Bombmagic, which are printed in Taiwan at the well known factory that prints for the awesome LPCC and TWPCC. The Fujin and Raijin deck feature a thicker stock though and have a structure that mimics linen (way before Cartamundi did their B9 finish). I don't have any other explicit TWPCC decks, so I checked with Deckno since he mentioned that the Hidden King deck from Bombmagic is the best handling deck he encountered so far and seeing from the pictures Kind Time has the same dimple structure like the Hidden King deck.

Summary:

A) deck has smooth edges - way smoother than anything USPCC I've ever encountered
B) due to those edges it faros self-working (not exaggorating here)
C) the finish feels more like LPCC or Cartamundi finish, which I would describe as on the greasy side of the spectrum - compared to USPCC finish which I would describe as dry
D) the destinct smell
E) the website mentions made in USA/Taiwan - which we thought might be a mistake but maybe it is made in USA (tuck box) and Taiwan (cards)?
F) explicit artwork - maybe USPCC didn't approved the design due to a more explicit nature?

EDIT:

Did forget to mention G) spreads like warm butter - so it is up there with the best fanning Cartamundi decks

EDIT II:

Forget to mention H) Perfect registration - this might actually be the biggest clue for not USPCC printed

How very interesting! That is some card knowledge there.

What is much less interesting is that I wouldn't have bought these no matter the printer or price so...

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STLBluesNut wrote:How very interesting! That is some card knowledge there.

Can't help it - I'm a paper nerd . Feel and handling are almost as important as the design for me.

You're subjective, not objective.

I do understand that English is not your 1st language.

Who would have thought that my first MPC deck is an anyone deck.
Not from the horse' mouth but from a pretty reputable guy out of the cardistry scene.
So we have another company that improved that much, that they overtook USPC.

Harvonsgard wrote:F) explicit artwork - maybe USPCC didn't approved the design due to a more explicit nature?

Yeah, When USPCC first got mentioned in the thread I thought "I don't think this makes it past their no-fly list..."
Took a look, and yeah, USPCC wouldn't have printed it.

Harvonsgard wrote:Who would have thought that my first MPC deck is an anyone deck.

You have a No. 17 v.01 Cardlauncher deck from Stockholm17, don't you? Those are MPC decks.

kem-collector wrote:

Harvonsgard wrote:Who would have thought that my first MPC deck is an anyone deck.

You have a No. 17 v.01 Cardlauncher deck from Stockholm17, don't you? Those are MPC decks.

Mine are the the V2 from USPCC. I don't have the Cardlauncher.